senthil1
05-31 01:43 PM
Main reasons for restrictions in legal immigration are
1. Organised compaign by anti immigrants with data. They proved that H1b persons were paid 20% below the market rate. There is no defence from orgainised compaign by pro immigrants. Pro immigrants gave the statement that shortage of skilled workers but they were not able to give supporting data. Newspaper stories are not enough
2. Reaching h1b cap in 2 days gave negative picture instead of positive. Mostly consulting companies rushed to get h1b without valid job positions
3. Instead of asking reasonable numbers Corporations and pro immigrants asked exemptions in H1b numbers and green card numbers. They want to make sure that unlimited numbers so that they can hire or fire anyone.
4. Immigrants are suffering by backlogs and they are expressed by IV and Lawyers. But that is not enough to justify immigration. That should be justified with real need for welfare of country
5. Before dot com bust even lot of US citizens welcomed H1b persons as there was not much layoffs. But past 7 years layoffs increased to outsource to India,China and other countries. For that they have to hire H1b and L1 persons from Countries mainly India. Those things made anti immigrants hardened their stand. US workers fear that they may lose job if US opens up immigration too much.
6. Some Indian consulting companies exploited the situation by just hiring H1bs not even trying to recruit US workers even if they available. But some Indian companies like TCS,Infosys started hiring US workers nowadays because of shortage of H1b.
H1b persons are considered as best skilled persons so Companies can afford to pay 5000 or even 10000$. Infact H1b persons should be paid 20% above US workers as they are considered as better than US workers. That is the reason for raising the fees by two thirds of Senators
Microsoft was doing effective compaign. Infact they asked resumes from programmers Guild. If many people do realistic campaign instead of opposing anti immigrants that will be easy to reform immigration
I am sure that the tech lobbyist are going to change the rules applied to the H1-B process, because everyone knows the effect of this to the econoomy. I am totally convinced that the strict H1-B rules will be removed.
I am trying to figure out or want to see how or will these tech companies force or lobby to get EB relief.
How important is EB relief for them?
1) they can't hire brains from US universities.
2) they can't hire those who they think would benefit the company but are stuck with their GC process with some other small consulting firm.
I see STEM with advance degree getting relief, the current backlog will not be benefitted a lot (eg. Real hike in EB visas, Removing the country cap). I am not being a pessimist but, I do not see a light in my path. (May be my comments are wrong)
**** Important Note****
After the State Union Speech given by the President to change the Immigration system, we saw a huge applause by all the law makers. So many individual bills in favor of Skill were introduced. Mr Gates, in front of Senate gave a detailed explaination of our problems, we saw few bills after H1-B quota ran out on the second day of the filing date added to the senate judiciary committee.
Our hopes increased after seeing so many favourable documents and media coverage, but what happened in the end.. Illegals were given a very very very easy path to citizenship after breaking the law.They get a relief which we can never imagine will ever happen to us.
Let us say we get the oppurtunity to file I-485 without PD. Increase in H1-B, Increase in EB visas. But still we have to stick to an employer, can't move up the ladder because of the same Labor description needed to be mainain I-485 if we take AC21.
I cannot digest and will never be able to digest that we are not given the oppurtunity to file our I-485 individually and work for any employer.
1. Organised compaign by anti immigrants with data. They proved that H1b persons were paid 20% below the market rate. There is no defence from orgainised compaign by pro immigrants. Pro immigrants gave the statement that shortage of skilled workers but they were not able to give supporting data. Newspaper stories are not enough
2. Reaching h1b cap in 2 days gave negative picture instead of positive. Mostly consulting companies rushed to get h1b without valid job positions
3. Instead of asking reasonable numbers Corporations and pro immigrants asked exemptions in H1b numbers and green card numbers. They want to make sure that unlimited numbers so that they can hire or fire anyone.
4. Immigrants are suffering by backlogs and they are expressed by IV and Lawyers. But that is not enough to justify immigration. That should be justified with real need for welfare of country
5. Before dot com bust even lot of US citizens welcomed H1b persons as there was not much layoffs. But past 7 years layoffs increased to outsource to India,China and other countries. For that they have to hire H1b and L1 persons from Countries mainly India. Those things made anti immigrants hardened their stand. US workers fear that they may lose job if US opens up immigration too much.
6. Some Indian consulting companies exploited the situation by just hiring H1bs not even trying to recruit US workers even if they available. But some Indian companies like TCS,Infosys started hiring US workers nowadays because of shortage of H1b.
H1b persons are considered as best skilled persons so Companies can afford to pay 5000 or even 10000$. Infact H1b persons should be paid 20% above US workers as they are considered as better than US workers. That is the reason for raising the fees by two thirds of Senators
Microsoft was doing effective compaign. Infact they asked resumes from programmers Guild. If many people do realistic campaign instead of opposing anti immigrants that will be easy to reform immigration
I am sure that the tech lobbyist are going to change the rules applied to the H1-B process, because everyone knows the effect of this to the econoomy. I am totally convinced that the strict H1-B rules will be removed.
I am trying to figure out or want to see how or will these tech companies force or lobby to get EB relief.
How important is EB relief for them?
1) they can't hire brains from US universities.
2) they can't hire those who they think would benefit the company but are stuck with their GC process with some other small consulting firm.
I see STEM with advance degree getting relief, the current backlog will not be benefitted a lot (eg. Real hike in EB visas, Removing the country cap). I am not being a pessimist but, I do not see a light in my path. (May be my comments are wrong)
**** Important Note****
After the State Union Speech given by the President to change the Immigration system, we saw a huge applause by all the law makers. So many individual bills in favor of Skill were introduced. Mr Gates, in front of Senate gave a detailed explaination of our problems, we saw few bills after H1-B quota ran out on the second day of the filing date added to the senate judiciary committee.
Our hopes increased after seeing so many favourable documents and media coverage, but what happened in the end.. Illegals were given a very very very easy path to citizenship after breaking the law.They get a relief which we can never imagine will ever happen to us.
Let us say we get the oppurtunity to file I-485 without PD. Increase in H1-B, Increase in EB visas. But still we have to stick to an employer, can't move up the ladder because of the same Labor description needed to be mainain I-485 if we take AC21.
I cannot digest and will never be able to digest that we are not given the oppurtunity to file our I-485 individually and work for any employer.
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she81
07-18 02:47 PM
Please stop posting such rude and derogatory posts for people stuck at BECs. It's very easy to criticize if you are in a better position than someone. But remember, you could also have been one among them. Then, if you were expressing your dissatisfaction and instead have people call you losers, you wouldn't begin to imagine how that feels. So, be happy you are getting this window of opportunity but stop this ugly bashing and blaming of yours.
People like bigtime008 are loosers.
They will think of themselves only. Characteristics of such peoiple are: Selfish
Instead of celebrating the greater good for all, they are just worried about what they are getting out of it.
These people join a group for security; but will always think only about themselves and will take every opportunity to demoralize the whole team.
We know BEC is an issue and there is sympathy for them, but does it mean we want to stop 700K people with families not getting a chance to better their lives.
People like bigtime008 are loosers.
They will think of themselves only. Characteristics of such peoiple are: Selfish
Instead of celebrating the greater good for all, they are just worried about what they are getting out of it.
These people join a group for security; but will always think only about themselves and will take every opportunity to demoralize the whole team.
We know BEC is an issue and there is sympathy for them, but does it mean we want to stop 700K people with families not getting a chance to better their lives.
rameshk75
04-29 12:33 PM
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GCBy3000
02-13 04:39 PM
Just with few members going against you within couple of hours, you are backing from your point. Then imagine how tough it will be to work for our goals working against our forces on daily basis in this country.
Just less than a day and few members are enough to push you back. Having similar and stronger opposition IV is still live. This one is enough to prove the leader ship.
Your previous post demands results from IV. You look like CEO/Chairman of IV. I pity your insanity and you have to learn a lot to live in this real world.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
Just less than a day and few members are enough to push you back. Having similar and stronger opposition IV is still live. This one is enough to prove the leader ship.
Your previous post demands results from IV. You look like CEO/Chairman of IV. I pity your insanity and you have to learn a lot to live in this real world.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
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01-13 10:07 AM
...I will donate minimum $100 for the cause.
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SOA
07-19 02:21 PM
Thanks again, SVAM77! That certainly is good news!:-)
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sunny1000
12-10 07:42 PM
heard you loud and clear,
and usually take complaints very well.
but when someone only complains and spends time undermining us and our efforts elsewhere and when they return only to take potshots...i reserve my right. you are actively harming this organization by your actions and it's not hidden to us, therefore you are retarding our goals- and those will benifit all 25,000 here- active, passive etc. not every person is creating value here and that is the fact. your attitude is childish, i will say it again. it's childish because your purpose is not to improve things in any way or help us achieve our goals but to prove some silly point about how you were treated in the past. but this is the last time i'm bothering, i want to move beyond this. some of us have better things to do than lurk around and wait to score personal points. you have already stated you have no wish to contribute further in any way. so be it.
also know that free speech is all well and good. but no organization will allow it's forums to be used to undermine it's objectives. try doing it on numbers usa or alipac and see how long you last.
As I heard, the discussions on this forum do not come under "free speech" as these are not something that the Government is trying to regulate against the People.
and usually take complaints very well.
but when someone only complains and spends time undermining us and our efforts elsewhere and when they return only to take potshots...i reserve my right. you are actively harming this organization by your actions and it's not hidden to us, therefore you are retarding our goals- and those will benifit all 25,000 here- active, passive etc. not every person is creating value here and that is the fact. your attitude is childish, i will say it again. it's childish because your purpose is not to improve things in any way or help us achieve our goals but to prove some silly point about how you were treated in the past. but this is the last time i'm bothering, i want to move beyond this. some of us have better things to do than lurk around and wait to score personal points. you have already stated you have no wish to contribute further in any way. so be it.
also know that free speech is all well and good. but no organization will allow it's forums to be used to undermine it's objectives. try doing it on numbers usa or alipac and see how long you last.
As I heard, the discussions on this forum do not come under "free speech" as these are not something that the Government is trying to regulate against the People.
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nogc_noproblem
07-13 11:04 PM
Based on the various discussions in this forum, the number is expected to be around 20k. No concrete evidence for this claim.
It will be interesting to see Sep bulletin. Because at present except EB2 I & C all other categories are either C or U. So, each and every visa will go to EB2 I & C and there will be plethora of approvals beginning Aug 1st. I-485 processing date is in July ’07 (both at TSC and NSC) and all the pending EB2 (till June 1st 06) may not be ready to adjudicated (RFE, denials, I-140 not cleared etc). If the above numbers are correct and given the fact that additional numbers will be available beginning Oct (2008 quota), there is bright chance that EB2 dates may still move further. This is my personal opinion.
Does any one has any Idea or back of the envelope calculation as to how many EB2 visas (for all countries) may be left for the remainder of FY'07?
The reason I am saying Eb2 all and not EB2 India, as most of the 485 applications filled in early July 485 were from India. Hence, given the new interpretation of visa overflow, almost all will be assigned to this category.
It will be interesting to see Sep bulletin. Because at present except EB2 I & C all other categories are either C or U. So, each and every visa will go to EB2 I & C and there will be plethora of approvals beginning Aug 1st. I-485 processing date is in July ’07 (both at TSC and NSC) and all the pending EB2 (till June 1st 06) may not be ready to adjudicated (RFE, denials, I-140 not cleared etc). If the above numbers are correct and given the fact that additional numbers will be available beginning Oct (2008 quota), there is bright chance that EB2 dates may still move further. This is my personal opinion.
Does any one has any Idea or back of the envelope calculation as to how many EB2 visas (for all countries) may be left for the remainder of FY'07?
The reason I am saying Eb2 all and not EB2 India, as most of the 485 applications filled in early July 485 were from India. Hence, given the new interpretation of visa overflow, almost all will be assigned to this category.
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Totoro
05-05 10:44 AM
I think we can work as a Group on this Issue. I am ready to lead or Join this Group.
We can file in Court if required as a Group to get a greater exposure and success.
Least but not last, the contributions can be very very minimum. We can get more people join this site in less time with this issue.
Requesting IV core team to advise on it.
Thanks
That is exactly what I am thinking. There are laws to protect immigrants from discrimination. I believe this clause was added to the Social Security Act to protect us in situations exactly like this one.
Also, I am glad to have become involved in this as it has led me to great immigration resources like IV, which I would not have known about otherwise.
We can file in Court if required as a Group to get a greater exposure and success.
Least but not last, the contributions can be very very minimum. We can get more people join this site in less time with this issue.
Requesting IV core team to advise on it.
Thanks
That is exactly what I am thinking. There are laws to protect immigrants from discrimination. I believe this clause was added to the Social Security Act to protect us in situations exactly like this one.
Also, I am glad to have become involved in this as it has led me to great immigration resources like IV, which I would not have known about otherwise.
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nyte_crawler
03-14 10:19 AM
Agreed. I think there are people like myself whose PD is in 2002 and are eligibile to move to EB2 after finishing advanced degrees and adding another 5 years of experience during the process.
It�s good that at least some of us are getting VISAs, instead of VISAs being lost.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
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The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
It�s good that at least some of us are getting VISAs, instead of VISAs being lost.
However if this continues we could see a big movement to switch over to EB2 with or without porting PDs. This may in turn help EB3 :)
We need to make this a sticky thread, so that we can brainstorm and put best ways to switch from EB3 to EB2 w/keeping older PDs.
Below from post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=230406#post230406
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_analys.html
Transfer of the Earlier Priority Date : EB3 to New EB2
�MurthyDotCom
The ability to transfer priority dates from an earlier, approved, I-140 to a later-filed I-140 could provide an alternative for job mobility, both within the current employer's organization or with a new employer. This would be helpful for those who want to make a change but are not eligible to file the I-485 application because of retrogression. It also could help people who are eligible to change from an EB3 classification to EB2. One would be eligible to request a transfer of the priority date from the earlier-filed EB3 petition to a new EB2 petition once the I-140 is approved. The new EB2 petition would need to be based upon a new LC for a position requiring the EB2 level of education and/or experience. (Over time, many people with EB3 cases have become eligible for EB2 cases due to increased experience and/or education, and promotions.)
This strategy potentially could shave off a few years in the queue for available immigrant visa numbers. This may be particularly appealing to those who had EB3 labor certifications filed on their behalf long ago and have had their cases pending while they have gained advanced degrees, acquired several more years of experience, and/or are offered jobs at higher levels. Keep in mind, though, that this involves filing a whole new LC under the PERM system for a new job opportunity and that the employer must actually require the additional degree and/or experience for all persons holding that job classification in order for the new case to be filed as EB2.
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06-04 03:38 PM
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I am preparing my AP renewal and have an question now with Q#3 : Class of Admission?, I am still working in H1 but while entering i used my AP.Please advice.
Thanks.
I am preparing my AP renewal and have an question now with Q#3 : Class of Admission?, I am still working in H1 but while entering i used my AP.Please advice.
Thanks.
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singhsa3
07-17 09:58 PM
Some of the core members are also stuck in BEC. But they still worked selfleshly. And don't preach injustice to me, I came here to study in 1999, got one labor (PD 2002) rejected on technical grounds, went in for other labor PD 2005, so my situation is probably worse than you.
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
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gconmymind
06-14 06:34 PM
I am currently on H1 and plan to get married in India next month and file 485 for me and wife next month. She will be able to travel with me on H4. If she starts using EAD after getting it, does that invalidate my H1? I plan to continue with the same employer on H1.
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Totoro
05-28 04:22 PM
All,
I visited the local office at Waukegan (Chicago suburb) last week to apply for SSN for my wife (H1 & EAD) and my minor son (H4) and was surprised to see SSN card in my mail box today for both of them!! :) (frankly I was expecting to see a denial letter for my son). Sequence of events
Me: submitted SSN form, passport for my minor Son
SSN officer: Upon seeing the visa. We do not accept application for h4 w/o work authorization
Me: I produced the printout of SSN provision 20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3) and informed here that I need to apply for Federal benefit (stimulus package) and for that I would need one
SSN Officer: Oh yea..Oh yea.. there is a provision and she accepted the application
My sons SSN card displays "Not authorized to work".Thanks to Totoro posting the information on 05/03/2008.
link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18907
That's great news. You can apply for the stimulus payment next year.
I visited the local office at Waukegan (Chicago suburb) last week to apply for SSN for my wife (H1 & EAD) and my minor son (H4) and was surprised to see SSN card in my mail box today for both of them!! :) (frankly I was expecting to see a denial letter for my son). Sequence of events
Me: submitted SSN form, passport for my minor Son
SSN officer: Upon seeing the visa. We do not accept application for h4 w/o work authorization
Me: I produced the printout of SSN provision 20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3) and informed here that I need to apply for Federal benefit (stimulus package) and for that I would need one
SSN Officer: Oh yea..Oh yea.. there is a provision and she accepted the application
My sons SSN card displays "Not authorized to work".Thanks to Totoro posting the information on 05/03/2008.
link http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18907
That's great news. You can apply for the stimulus payment next year.
nomad
07-23 05:19 PM
My case with PD of Aug 2002( EB3) was stuck at PBEC until May 23, 2007. PBEC had closed my case multiple times, and had to really fight to get it reopen and finally certified. I have sent emails to Sec. of Labor ( Elaine Chao) twice. Her office was helpful in opening my case. I got reply from her office within a month too. Also, I mailed senators too. Try to talk to senators from your states. I know and understand the pain of you guys, whose cases are stuck at BECs. Personally, I feel that you guys should mail Sec. of Labor, and let her have the attention of these cases. This is really injustice!
bigtime008
07-18 02:37 PM
Now I see why you got banned. What you did not realize is others were not rejoicing anything "AT YOUR EXPENSE". They were just enjoying what was available to them. You are the one who wants to make it a zero sum game i.e. gain for others is loss for you and vice versa.
While others were celebrating what was good for them, you want to rejoice others pain. That is just *sic*. I retract my earlier support for you.
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Please don't misunderstand me, I did not rejoice their pain, I rejoice what was good for me.
While others were celebrating what was good for them, you want to rejoice others pain. That is just *sic*. I retract my earlier support for you.
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Please don't misunderstand me, I did not rejoice their pain, I rejoice what was good for me.
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