edaltsis
05-31 04:39 PM
Why fly other airlines in the first place? Travel by Air-India and get rid of these issues besides helping the ticket money go to India.
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Jerrome
07-14 05:13 PM
How do you say Level III and Level IV is EB2, Mine is EB2 but it is Level II
pitha
06-08 06:14 PM
CIR is going to be back for sure no doubt about it and when it comes back it is going to be the same bill. Harrry Reid is just creating a drama so that he can reduce the number of amendments introduced by the republicans. There are currently more than 30 to 40 amendments remaining, with this drama harry reid is trying to reduce the amendments to about 5 or 6 more amendments.
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
There is a SLIM chance that CIR might come back this year, but if this CIR is taken again with its current provision for the EB Category and H1B in it, it is very bad for many of us.
Plan B, I think must be, trying to insert or get some sort of SMALL provision that would alleviate the problem for vast majority of us, into some appropriation bill (Read some where there will be 11 appropriation bill taken up this summer) as the appropriation bill must have to pass for the government to function.
I would either try for filing AOS while visa numbers are not available with an extra fee of $1000… or recapture of unused visas from previous years and use them once without country limit might help. As long as we are not asking for some thing new or more, but like recapture, change of process to ease the current problem, etc might have a SMALL chance.
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
There is a SLIM chance that CIR might come back this year, but if this CIR is taken again with its current provision for the EB Category and H1B in it, it is very bad for many of us.
Plan B, I think must be, trying to insert or get some sort of SMALL provision that would alleviate the problem for vast majority of us, into some appropriation bill (Read some where there will be 11 appropriation bill taken up this summer) as the appropriation bill must have to pass for the government to function.
I would either try for filing AOS while visa numbers are not available with an extra fee of $1000… or recapture of unused visas from previous years and use them once without country limit might help. As long as we are not asking for some thing new or more, but like recapture, change of process to ease the current problem, etc might have a SMALL chance.
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zico123
06-16 09:25 PM
Suppose Company A filed for visa cancellation on 11th June, Monday. Please let me know if there would be any problem in filing for H1B transfer now as Company A has filed for cancellation before i file for H1B Transfer.
I have seen in other posts that you have about 2 weeks to get a new job who will file for transfer. But contact an attorney and if you cannot change job immediately then consider change of status to F1 or another status.
I have seen in other posts that you have about 2 weeks to get a new job who will file for transfer. But contact an attorney and if you cannot change job immediately then consider change of status to F1 or another status.
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gcseeker2002
07-18 11:20 AM
Anybody thinking of this ...........
I know there is a whole lot of people asking if they can do a Executive MBA or Masters and qualify for the US Masters exemption. My question is, what about someone who started and did his Masters in his field of labor application from a accredited university, after applying for EB3 labor, and now has labor and 140 approved but waiting for PD, will this person also qualify for US Masters, or will he have to start a new labor application based on the masters degree ?
Gurus, please answer.
I know there is a whole lot of people asking if they can do a Executive MBA or Masters and qualify for the US Masters exemption. My question is, what about someone who started and did his Masters in his field of labor application from a accredited university, after applying for EB3 labor, and now has labor and 140 approved but waiting for PD, will this person also qualify for US Masters, or will he have to start a new labor application based on the masters degree ?
Gurus, please answer.
hopeful08
06-14 12:11 PM
I was told by my attorney NOT to do this...Apply either through yourself or through your spouse. I was told that if there are two different applications for the same person, then it raises a red flag and you might end up in a big soup...But having said that, your attorney(s) might have different opinion(s)...
With the good news of all numbers current, both I and my wife's dates are current and eligible for filing I485.
1. In my application, can I include my wife as spouse for adjustment of status? And In my wife's application, can I include myself as spouse?
I am trying to do this to make sure if anything goes wrong in any one of our application, I can depend on the other one.
2. If I get an EAD based on my wife's application, can we both switch jobs after 180 days and take advantage of AC21? I read in some forums that I can, but the primary application (my wife) has to work for the same company until we get I485 approved.
Thanks for your answers in advance
With the good news of all numbers current, both I and my wife's dates are current and eligible for filing I485.
1. In my application, can I include my wife as spouse for adjustment of status? And In my wife's application, can I include myself as spouse?
I am trying to do this to make sure if anything goes wrong in any one of our application, I can depend on the other one.
2. If I get an EAD based on my wife's application, can we both switch jobs after 180 days and take advantage of AC21? I read in some forums that I can, but the primary application (my wife) has to work for the same company until we get I485 approved.
Thanks for your answers in advance
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amitjoey
06-14 06:56 PM
I am currently on H1 and plan to get married in India next month and file 485 for me and wife next month. She will be able to travel with me on H4. If she starts using EAD after getting it, does that invalidate my H1? I plan to continue with the same employer on H1.
No it does not invalidate your H1. You can keep working on your H1.
Disclamer: Specific situation might defer. Consult an attorney.
No it does not invalidate your H1. You can keep working on your H1.
Disclamer: Specific situation might defer. Consult an attorney.
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Madhuri
05-17 04:54 PM
Done.
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willwin
06-24 02:08 PM
There is no committee meeting scheduled for this month except the one that happened on 12th.
http://judiciary.house.gov/schedule.aspx
http://judiciary.house.gov/schedule.aspx
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vbkris77
03-05 09:37 AM
What we get
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is:
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is:
--------------------------------------
February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
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mps
10-04 01:34 AM
Your language just proves where you belong to.
You dont have to defend yourself or your native place.
:)
It just reflects in your postings whether they are in your bhojpuri hindi or your broken English.
Just grow up!!!!
“arunmurthy” motherfuck*** if you are so proud of your heritage why the fu** you just don't go back to where you came from ....why the fu** are you invoking any language and region on this forum ..You are a freaking downright obnoxious SOB
You dont have to defend yourself or your native place.
:)
It just reflects in your postings whether they are in your bhojpuri hindi or your broken English.
Just grow up!!!!
“arunmurthy” motherfuck*** if you are so proud of your heritage why the fu** you just don't go back to where you came from ....why the fu** are you invoking any language and region on this forum ..You are a freaking downright obnoxious SOB
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485Mbe4001
12-10 06:07 PM
Welcome back :)
First off it is quite frustrating with people not participating and not putting their money where their mouth is. However, on a constructive note, screaming at people for behaving the way they are behaving rarely gets them to meekly surrender and start doing the right thing. Whether people do it out of their own free will or after persuasion, it take courage for people to participate. What works is to look at the problem and not to personalize the issue. So poor participation is the issue. If you are consistently not getting enough people to attend then it makes sense to delay the frequency of the meetings as one option. The other option is to call people and ask why they were unable to attend and give them a chance to come for the next meeting. Maybe the projection of rounding up x people was based on poor assumptions. So setting realistic expectations and then building momentum from there is the key. This is a dry tough fight. We need to set up tangible goals which break the vision down yet show the grassroot level people how the baby steps will lead to success. Most people in my opinion, back off because they do not see a realistic connection between the baby steps and the final vision. I think if we treat this like a challenge and try to understand the underlying problems, this movement will have a better chance at success. Regards, JH
P.S. My apologies for offering unsolicited advice. Please feel free to ignore. and understand that my intentions are good.
First off it is quite frustrating with people not participating and not putting their money where their mouth is. However, on a constructive note, screaming at people for behaving the way they are behaving rarely gets them to meekly surrender and start doing the right thing. Whether people do it out of their own free will or after persuasion, it take courage for people to participate. What works is to look at the problem and not to personalize the issue. So poor participation is the issue. If you are consistently not getting enough people to attend then it makes sense to delay the frequency of the meetings as one option. The other option is to call people and ask why they were unable to attend and give them a chance to come for the next meeting. Maybe the projection of rounding up x people was based on poor assumptions. So setting realistic expectations and then building momentum from there is the key. This is a dry tough fight. We need to set up tangible goals which break the vision down yet show the grassroot level people how the baby steps will lead to success. Most people in my opinion, back off because they do not see a realistic connection between the baby steps and the final vision. I think if we treat this like a challenge and try to understand the underlying problems, this movement will have a better chance at success. Regards, JH
P.S. My apologies for offering unsolicited advice. Please feel free to ignore. and understand that my intentions are good.
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bestin
10-17 05:16 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bestin, I looked at your signature, and felt very proud for you. You applied your labor in July 2007 only, and you are fired up to support and contribute to the cause. It shows how aware and alert you are. It shows how you refuse to face this unfair system. It shows that you want to fight for your rights....
I wished i were here before (IV) but ofcourse its human life isnt.We learn from experience.If at all IV was here before or if there were active forums like this earlier i am not sure if i would have ever thought of coming to US.Now after coming here and learning lessons its almost like we are stuck- not only on immigration but also to maintain our commitments.There were phases wherein i was literally upset on my decision to come to US which i beleive most of us would have gone thru at one stage.
America always vouches freedom for all,but they missed the point that there is literally no freedom for those who come to US by ethical means.See the plight of USCIS.Its like a monopoly.U can hardly question.A simple example is my wifes L2 EAD.Once she got the FP notice and receipt i sent all relevant documents by USPS delivery confirmation .At the 90th day they issue an RFE asking for the same documents.If it were in India it would have been used for packing samosas.But who knows what happens in USCIS.Now we need to wait again.Can we question them on what happened to the documents i sent?Its unnecessary waste of time.I beleive its high time USCIS thinks on outsourcing to be more effective..
I am not saying Indian Govt offices are better.
Just consider howmuch we spent on GC filing?I personally had to spend for filing and attorney and medical approx 7000$ (ya i had to use my company attorney as my labour was approved in last time).If atleast 200000 people did spend atleast 5000 ,then see how much we spent .Atleast 1000,000,000 dollars inside America during June to August 07 out of which atleast 50% to USCIS for something which MAY OR MAYNOT happen after years.And again a confirmed money 1500-2500 dollars every year for attorney+uscis fee for EAD and AP.The figure which i mentioned is just for an example,the actual figure might be twice.
In addition we spend on travel .A typical Indian Trip for a family of 4 would cost atleast $5000 on Air.If these taxes are considered see how much we contribute.And yes we pay for SSN,medicare for americans to enjoy at florida after 60.
Inspite of all these,some people here think we are just to steal their jobs and send money to India.If people dont realise they are competent,then their way is to oppose immigration reforms.
I have seen lots of Americans here complaining on stress and taking stress releivers and yoga.I am sure their life expectancy would be reduced to 1/2 of what they have if they were to undergo immigration inside America now especially from retrogessed countries.Serious its not a joke.:D
Yes WD,we will make Michigan a role model.
Thanks for your snacks CC !!!!!. Looking forward to meet u guys .
Bestin, I looked at your signature, and felt very proud for you. You applied your labor in July 2007 only, and you are fired up to support and contribute to the cause. It shows how aware and alert you are. It shows how you refuse to face this unfair system. It shows that you want to fight for your rights....
I wished i were here before (IV) but ofcourse its human life isnt.We learn from experience.If at all IV was here before or if there were active forums like this earlier i am not sure if i would have ever thought of coming to US.Now after coming here and learning lessons its almost like we are stuck- not only on immigration but also to maintain our commitments.There were phases wherein i was literally upset on my decision to come to US which i beleive most of us would have gone thru at one stage.
America always vouches freedom for all,but they missed the point that there is literally no freedom for those who come to US by ethical means.See the plight of USCIS.Its like a monopoly.U can hardly question.A simple example is my wifes L2 EAD.Once she got the FP notice and receipt i sent all relevant documents by USPS delivery confirmation .At the 90th day they issue an RFE asking for the same documents.If it were in India it would have been used for packing samosas.But who knows what happens in USCIS.Now we need to wait again.Can we question them on what happened to the documents i sent?Its unnecessary waste of time.I beleive its high time USCIS thinks on outsourcing to be more effective..
I am not saying Indian Govt offices are better.
Just consider howmuch we spent on GC filing?I personally had to spend for filing and attorney and medical approx 7000$ (ya i had to use my company attorney as my labour was approved in last time).If atleast 200000 people did spend atleast 5000 ,then see how much we spent .Atleast 1000,000,000 dollars inside America during June to August 07 out of which atleast 50% to USCIS for something which MAY OR MAYNOT happen after years.And again a confirmed money 1500-2500 dollars every year for attorney+uscis fee for EAD and AP.The figure which i mentioned is just for an example,the actual figure might be twice.
In addition we spend on travel .A typical Indian Trip for a family of 4 would cost atleast $5000 on Air.If these taxes are considered see how much we contribute.And yes we pay for SSN,medicare for americans to enjoy at florida after 60.
Inspite of all these,some people here think we are just to steal their jobs and send money to India.If people dont realise they are competent,then their way is to oppose immigration reforms.
I have seen lots of Americans here complaining on stress and taking stress releivers and yoga.I am sure their life expectancy would be reduced to 1/2 of what they have if they were to undergo immigration inside America now especially from retrogessed countries.Serious its not a joke.:D
Yes WD,we will make Michigan a role model.
Thanks for your snacks CC !!!!!. Looking forward to meet u guys .
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sanju
04-10 08:30 AM
Is this the language 2 civilized people use to discuss or debate. When 2 people debate, both believe other is not right - thats why its called discussion or debate. Doesn't mean we need to use extreme or bad words.
oh ya, so the police for political correctness is out. Gosh, I am toast.
Take it easy. buddysinsfo and I have a history. We go way back together. He is my friend, don't you know. oh and BTW, he is a forum terrorist because he use different ids posing as north indian to attack people from Andra, just to create unrest on the forum. During mumbai attack he was repeatedly sympathising with the terrorist. I don't owe you any explanation, and get a life to deal with tough language instead of trying to act like a moral police of political correctness. What's wrong with my language? Others here use way to harsh language. What's up with that?
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oh ya, so the police for political correctness is out. Gosh, I am toast.
Take it easy. buddysinsfo and I have a history. We go way back together. He is my friend, don't you know. oh and BTW, he is a forum terrorist because he use different ids posing as north indian to attack people from Andra, just to create unrest on the forum. During mumbai attack he was repeatedly sympathising with the terrorist. I don't owe you any explanation, and get a life to deal with tough language instead of trying to act like a moral police of political correctness. What's wrong with my language? Others here use way to harsh language. What's up with that?
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gconmymind
05-01 01:27 PM
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I am pledging $50 at 15K now. I think we are running slow. :confused:
I am pledging $50 at 15K now. I think we are running slow. :confused:
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rajsand
09-20 11:33 AM
Another rally simultaneously in many states will have good effect provided we have min 500 numbers in individual states.
And yes since we had the DC rally on a weekday (for a geniune reason)
it would be better to make this one a weekend rally just to push things and keep the momentum going. Sure a weekend will fetch 10* more crowd than on a weekday. Sunday would be much preferred as the next day is a working day and things will hot up..!
It can be one rally per neighbouring states.. eg > tristates -- NJ, NY & PA can have one rally . MD , DC & VA can have one ..
Seems like a good thought..
And yes since we had the DC rally on a weekday (for a geniune reason)
it would be better to make this one a weekend rally just to push things and keep the momentum going. Sure a weekend will fetch 10* more crowd than on a weekday. Sunday would be much preferred as the next day is a working day and things will hot up..!
It can be one rally per neighbouring states.. eg > tristates -- NJ, NY & PA can have one rally . MD , DC & VA can have one ..
Seems like a good thought..
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anindya1234
06-30 09:24 AM
Remember the petition that I wrote supporting the SKIL bill, which was not endorsed by IV core at the time of the party with CIR? Lets work on it now and give it its final shape and lets get this bill passed...
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svam77
07-19 10:44 PM
I agree 100 %. But even if the officer wants to know about out I 140, it wud be just a 1 min process for them as they can check if a recipt was generated based on the names.
If we put the copies of the fee checks, that would help even more because that means that our I 140 application was accepted.
With tracking receipts, cheque copies and a letter, I believe we would be able to establish evidence that, 140 was received by the service center.
Totally missing out on showing that I 140 is filed is no evidence at all. Showing every possible document to prove that the docment was filed, should be do the work.
Anyways since there are so many hundreds of people who filed I 140 in the recent days, I believe some alternative from USCIS wud show up in the next few days .......
If we put the copies of the fee checks, that would help even more because that means that our I 140 application was accepted.
With tracking receipts, cheque copies and a letter, I believe we would be able to establish evidence that, 140 was received by the service center.
Totally missing out on showing that I 140 is filed is no evidence at all. Showing every possible document to prove that the docment was filed, should be do the work.
Anyways since there are so many hundreds of people who filed I 140 in the recent days, I believe some alternative from USCIS wud show up in the next few days .......
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prem_goel
04-16 06:31 PM
so far....they rushed my application last year in July 2007 so I didn't miss the bus. I guess it depends who you are working with. I worked with Maria V. who was good.
yeah but their invoice department needs training. They keep on sending me invoices and then recanting it.
yeah but their invoice department needs training. They keep on sending me invoices and then recanting it.
dixie
02-13 11:11 PM
This "anand" guy is a psuedonym for a Kim Berry crony for all we know.Old timers will notice that his distracting messages bear a striking resemblance to the folks who attacked IV core on the day of their CIR success. Such folks are not worthy of a personal response from IV core members - their time is too valuable for that. Hell, Roy Beck and Lou Foulmouth don't care to respond to our emails, do they ?
needhelp!
11-15 01:09 PM
I want to see action too, but with 100 members scattered all across texas, it just doesn't make sense.
Even in flower campaign a few brave ones bore the burden, the rest were watching. For any action that IV leadership picks, how can we ensure success if we don't get the commitment of members?
By joining your state chapter you are making that commitment that you are willing to be contacted by IV, and willing to stand by the organization in the hour of action.
If you are already a member, convince a friend to do the same. This organization needs committed members. We are not asking you to have to volunteer five hours a week, but when its D-Day, are you willing you stand up?
Even in flower campaign a few brave ones bore the burden, the rest were watching. For any action that IV leadership picks, how can we ensure success if we don't get the commitment of members?
By joining your state chapter you are making that commitment that you are willing to be contacted by IV, and willing to stand by the organization in the hour of action.
If you are already a member, convince a friend to do the same. This organization needs committed members. We are not asking you to have to volunteer five hours a week, but when its D-Day, are you willing you stand up?
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